Here we are. We're back again. This one's going to be fun because we talk a lot about real estate on this podcast as an investment perspective, but now we're going to get a little more sense of the remodel for someone for their own home, but also how that ties to investments overall. And this guy we have on right now. One, thank you for your service and everything that you've done for us and our country. But being moving your whole family to Texas. I can't wait to dive into this one. So without further ado give it up for Chris Taggi. Why don't you give us and start with your background, what you grew up with and how you even got to where you're at

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
0:34

right now. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm preparing for this presentation at the Build Expo here in Houston on Thursday, and it's all about my story, right? So I've practiced it like a million times over the last few days. But yeah, I grew up a military brat. My dad was in the Navy. So we moved around a lot. Resident really exposed to construction, investing or anything. It was just like moving and baseball. That's about it. Growing up, and being on military bases and I grew up and decided that I was going to join after I joined graduated high school. And when I was in, I was actually a Chinese linguist. I did that for about six years on active duty and went into the reserves, became a police officer in Honolulu, later on became a police officer in San Diego. In the meantime, I was still a reservist in the military, became an officer. Did a few deployments and then ended up going to Afghanistan in 2009, 2010. And my job was to fly drones for the special forces and I get out there and they said Hey Chris, you're the first one here and your operation center hasn't been built yet, so you have to build it. And I'm like, I don't know anything about construction, I'm like, what do you want me to do? Like, we're going to send you the supplies here. Here are the plans. You just find some Afghanis to help you build this thing. And I'm like. I'm out there, like, I don't know the difference between a one 10 to 20, electrical outlet and I'm plugging my alarm clock into a two 20 and explodes. And so I'm like, I've got no choice, right? The military is like, Hey, here's your stuff, figure it out. So, I'm like, okay, cool. I've got no choice. I'm not going to go home. They're not going to say, Hey, you're not under qualified. You're going home. Like, I'm there. I'm doing this. So, got the work started and as the process went on, I'm like, wow, this is kind of cool. I'm like, I'm learning stuff as I go. I learned a lot about the scope of work that no plan is perfect. There's going to be like on a large project, there's going to be change orders. There's going to be some things that they didn't think about. For example they wanted me to build this operation center, but they didn't plan out a bathroom. So I'm like what's going to happen if you have to go to the bathroom in the middle of work here, so, I had to figure out how to get a bathroom there. So I acquired a bathroom, some running water, and I remember having lunch with this guy on base and he goes, Oh, and I was telling him, I was kind of bragging like, yeah, we got a bathroom, blah, blah, blah. And he said okay, great. What to do for septic? I'm like what's that? And he's like, What's going to happen when you flush the toilet? I'm like, I didn't even think of that. So we went out the base I was on was an old abandoned Russian base. So we went out and found this like big barrel left behind by the Russians in the eighties. And I got a couple of Afghanis to go inside and like seal it up and paint it, so nothing would leak. Doug a big hole, put it in the ground. And that was our septic system right there. So I left Afghanistan feeling like, that my, my fingerprints are all over that. I took something that was nothing. Now they're flying operations out of there. They can work, they have electricity, they have running water. They can flush a toilet without a problem. And I really enjoyed it and fast forward to 2020 when we started our company had just had an opportunity to serve clients and my property management business who wanted some construction done on their properties. I'm like, wow, I. I've oversell prop construction before, so yeah, I'll do it. And that's how elevation construction started. That's

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
3:56

that's fantastic. Just a crazy story and the septic thing I would have done the same thing. I'd have been so proud and been like, oh shit. That's awesome. Exactly. So you do a couple things, right? The property management side and the construction side of real estate when you're looking on the property management side, really Let me back up. When we're in real estate, most people that are investing side of things, right? This is who I'm talking to at this point. They usually shy away from real estate for really one specific. Two specific reasons. Money obviously is always an answer, but two is how the hell am I going to manage this thing? Yeah, right. How did you break that ideology for yourself to get into it? And be like, you know what, I'm going to go into property management.

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
4:39

After I left the military, I had a few jobs where I was building up my skills on, overseeing projects. And part of that was I was a facilities manager for, Nine old buildings in Massachusetts. So I understood, routine maintenance. I understood seasonal work, snow plows You know heaters in the summertime ACs in the summer or winter time, opposite, right? Yeah And just you know, just routine stuff that needs to be done on a monthly basis routine checks on things So they don't break because I was overseeing and building for a church three child care centers in a school so, you know With there's rules as far as the child care centers go as far as temperature and regulations and things about the playground and whatnot So just understanding taking care of the buildings making sure the tenants in those buildings are happy and that we are helping them stay You know compliant with the regulations so, you know with that experience an opportunity came up to be open up a property management company in washington And said you know i'll be doing what i'm doing now The differences i'll be I'll have my own business, which is something I've always wanted to have. So I just took that experience, open up the property management company. And that's how, like, I just took the systems that I was using in that prior job into this. The difference was my employer was my, the owner. So now I have like 30 to 50 different owners I'm dealing with. And then however many, like 300 tenants, right? So, The problems just increased based on, the different personalities I was dealing with at the time.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
6:17

Yeah that's the personalities, right? Yeah. There's something I've learned in my young life of 34 years is the fact that personalities and learning those and being able to, as either the leader or the business owner, kind of mold and adapt to make sure that every communication is key is probably the hardest thing to do when it comes to business. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So we go from property management, obviously, natural business orientation. Clients are like, hey, this is what I'm looking at doing. And you get in construction, you also move to Texas. So, why the move? What was the big point behind the move?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
6:54

I had moved around so much in my life with the military, and I had taken my family from Temecula, California to Massachusetts, then to Washington, and when my wife and I were up there, we were both feeling like, this is a step. stepping stone to where we want to be, but we didn't feel like this was our final stop. We knew there was another place we wanted to live. We just didn't know where. And I had a business coach that lived down here in Houston and there were events that I was going to. So I was coming out here quite often. Initially I came out here in September of two years ago, by 18 months ago, and I got off the plane. I told my wife, I'm like, I'm never coming back to this place. It's too humid, but as time goes on, I'm coming back and forth. I'm meeting more people. My network was growing down here. I really started to like it. And my wife and I were talking about like, okay, we want to move so how is that gonna happen? And then where are we gonna go? So I told her about Houston. We came out. We liked it. We decided that if we wanted to have a Mild winter time we're gonna have to deal with a brutal summer, which is what Houston is all about and There's just an opportunity for construction down here because construction in Houston is probably the best in the nation, at the moment, so, we just decided my son's going into eighth grade at the time and we didn't want to move in the middle of high school or anything. So if we were going to move, it would be been there at that time for him. So, yeah, we made a quick decision. We sold a house, bought a house sold the property management company and moved down here, opened up a office for elevation construction here in Houston. There

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
8:30

you go. How was the summer, by the way? How are you feeling right now?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
8:33

I actually don't mind it. I like it. Even in the middle of the summer, I'm still in my garage working out. So it. Doesn't bother me too much. It just, the thing I don't like is in Washington. I was able to go for like, 13 mile runs here. I try to do six miles and I'm just dying. So the cardio isn't quite there, but but yeah, I really enjoy it down here. I think this is the best move we've made in a very long time.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
8:55

And you spoke about construction, really being a big thing down there in Houston. When we say construction, what are we specifically talking about right now? That's hot in your

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
9:02

area. I mean in Houston, there's a lot of construction for commercial going on, but you know, I'm not into that. That's kind of like the big boys bigger companies building huge buildings and stuff. We're focused more on residential. So, when we started in Washington, it was primarily working with investors. In fact, I would say 98% of our customers were investors who wanted to take a C class structure that was not maintained well for years, bring us in and fix it up and they can, attract the types of tenants that they want to have in their buildings. So that's what our specialty was. But at last summer when the economy started turning a bit, we noticed that they were not spending as much money or they were just trying to rent things out as is. Which, you know, is affects our business. So we had to make a decision of pivoting of like, okay, we got the experience, but let's go towards the homeowners now because with the rates going up and people not really buying houses as much at that time people were. I'm just going to stay in this house because I got a good rate and maybe I'll just fix it up. So we've been targeting those people. And I was reading, I was doing some research recently where, 257 people moved to Houston every day and Texas surpassed California's top market in real estate. And within that, For construction side, Texas has got the most construction and 50% of that comes from Dallas and Houston with Houston beating Dallas out at the time. I was reading. This was a couple of months ago. So just, just the data and the statistics and, I just feel like that is a good sign for us to grow down here. And at the same time, I heard, I think two weeks ago where Seattle's request for building permits and things like that were actually going down month over month. So coming down here was a good move.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
10:54

Yeah, absolutely. And that's on the like the new build side, right?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
10:58

Is what you were seeing in the reports. New build, yeah, new build. Yeah.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
11:00

Awesome. So, obviously, new build, we can see it everywhere. I mean, there is hot areas. There's always going to be, right? It's a market, is what it is. Yeah. But it's more along the lines of that Remodel. Why from your perspective are you seeing that? Obviously interest rates are a big deal, right? But why else do you believe like remodels are becoming those things? And I e like I, one of my clients, and you've met her, Jody is our interior designer and we're doing a remodel. So I get it from my personal perspective, but what are you seeing from your side of the uptick in remodels?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
11:34

The, most of the people that I talk to are, they have bought a house. Maybe they've been there for five years or more and they just don't feel like moving. They like the area they're in. They just don't want to move, but they want something nicer because it's a older house. For Micah countertops. Whatever it might be like, they just want to update it. Because even like, in the early 2000s, the style was darker cabinets, darker floors and a tan wall. Now it's lighter cabinets and gray walls, gray floors or whatever, like it's changed. So people are wanting a different look in their house. So that's what we're seeing. They don't like the traditional bathroom look. They like to have a pony wall with some glass. I, we're getting a lot of people who want to remove their tubs and just have a nice big shower. And then we've also had a few people would say, Hey, we're getting a little bit older. We want to remove the tub. We never use it. And we want to shower where, a couple of years if I have to have a wheelchair or a walker, we could just go right in. So we're seeing a lot of things like that. We're just, people are just like, Hey, I'm just staying right here. But we're also getting a lot of, new build new construction leads coming in, in fact, quite a bit. A few investors building duplexes and things like that. But some people who are moving into this area where they're like, Hey, I just want to build my dream home next to the lake. What does it look like? So those are longer projects and it's not like I go to their house, sign a contract and we start work next week. It takes a lot longer to build those up. Yeah.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
13:00

So really got three areas happening, right? You got the investors going. Probably more of your multifamily apartment complexes, duplexes. You've got people who lived in Houston or Texas area for a while and guess what? The pricing's not great for them. So they're going to do more of a remodel. And then you got the new blood coming in. And when you're coming from new blood into Texas, your money goes a lot further in Texas than it does in other areas, specifically in the home side. Right. Yeah. And that's what's. What's happening, right? Why in this would be in any part of the United States when everyone starts to do a whole bunch of remodels like Everyone's usually saying I don't want to remodel because it's more expensive than buying new We're at the point where I don't think that's the case anymore In most cases why is that? Why, what happens when everyone starts to remodel? What does that do to the supply demand and overall cost for them to remodel compared to, when interest rates were at 3%?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
13:58

Yeah, it kind of depends. Like, for example, we were talking to a guy In Houston, a couple weeks ago to do a renovation, and he just wants to like update everything plumbing, electrical galvanized plumbing. You don't want that if you're going to move into it. Right? So just looking at what he wants to do. We're like, you know what? It's like. The amount of money you're going to put into this, you got to just knock it down and build new. But if you do that, then you're going to be the highest priced house in the neighborhood. Right. So, but when it comes to like just normal bathroom and kitchen remodels and stuff, I guess maybe I haven't really talked to the, our prospects much and say, how come you're doing this and not moving? But I know like on the real estate side, like my wife's an agent. So really the thing is rates are just. On top of everybody's mind, but it's transactions are still happening. But I think for the most part, people that we talk to, it's the rates that are keeping them from moving and into a new place. And just, they already have something at a low rate and just remodeling makes more sense for them.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
15:03

And I mean, we're talking about most people being in the threes. And right now we're, I think in the sevens. Last time I looked at rates, sixes, sevens, that's double, that's different. It gets down back to the fives, four and a half. Yeah, I think we'll see the uptick in buying homes. Yep. But it's never going away. It's a market cycle. Everyone, it's normal. It happens. It's just one of those things that it's in our generation. Now it's time for us to have higher interest rates. And I use air quotes because six, 7% is not high interest rates. Yeah. Historically

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
15:34

history. Yeah. Right.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
15:35

12, 15, 18 there's generations still alive that remember that. So everyone needs to just breathe a little bit. It'll come back around. Yeah. So we've hit upon your business. Things that we can do, things that can look at doing I want to get to more of now focusing on you as a business owner and going through that, that journey. Sure. Talk to me about the mindset you had to have when you first said, I want to be a business owner. Cause I look at a lot of people when we're young kids, I want to own a business. I want to make money. But. When you took that first step, where was your mindset at that point?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
16:13

I think going back to what I was saying earlier, I've always wanted to have my own business. It's just what kept me from doing it was. I didn't, I never witnessed anyone in my family do it, so I was a little afraid. I didn't know how. I didn't see an example. And I held onto that fear for my entire life because I remember even, before I joined the Navy, before I did the police department, I've always wanted to have my own company. I remember I was telling my wife this not long ago. The day before I went to the police Academy in San Diego, the night before I had to go down to an ATM machine to pull money out. Cause I didn't need to bring cash to buy our PT uniform the next day. And I remember driving, it's like nine o'clock at night. I'm driving and I'm just depressed. I'm like, I gotta go through a police Academy again. I don't want to do this. I just want to have my own business. So I don't have to like deal with all this crap anymore. I was just thinking like, I got a truck, I'll just buy a lawnmower. I'll just go mow lawns. Like I can make money doing that. Right. But then the fear got me. It's like, I'm about to get married. We're going to have kids, just all, you think of all these reasons or excuses not to do it, but, fast forward, gosh, I don't know how many years I started police Academy in 2014. No. In 2004, fast forward to 2019. So that's what 15 years of holding onto that. Right. I had this urge to like, Hey, just quit what you're doing. And transition over to your own business, but I'm like, nah, it's not a good time. Jonah's doing this, Connor's doing that. My wife's doing this and I got projects at work. They need me for and it was bugging me so much that I was actually having panic attacks for an entire summer and I didn't know what it was cause I've never had those before. And it, going back and forth to the VA hospital and she was telling me, I was talking to the psychiatrist and she's like, what is it you want to do with your life? And so I opened up and she goes I think you know what you need to do. And so my wife and I talked about it. I worked at a church at a time, so they understand this stuff, so I went out and talked to my pastor, my boss, and like, Hey, look, this is what's going on. I got to give you six months and I need to do my own thing. I don't know what I'm going to do, but whatever it is, it's going to be mine and I have to do it or else I'm just going to be miserable for the rest of my life. So that was it, and I did get, there's. Get cold feet. I get nervous. I'm like, okay, maybe I can extend this another year or something But my wife felt my wife's hand in my back push me She goes no you got to do this. You got to do this, and so anyway, I went through with it I gave a deadline I stuck to it we sold our house in Massachusetts, got rid of majority of our furniture, put what we could in two cubes, drove our cars to the dealership and said, Hey, we've got to catch a flight. So buy our cars. We can't bring them with us. So they bought our cars for very cheap price, went to the airport, got on a plane and flew to Seattle and started our company and been self employed ever since. So it was the fear that kept me going. But the thing is, it's like you have to recognize that, okay, I'm afraid, recognize that feeling is going to be there, but you can't let that make your decision. Fear does not have a choice in what you do. You just have to recognize that it's there and all the negative thoughts and the negative Emotions and feelings, not just internally, but from external. I had friends and family telling me that I was crazy with, I'm being stupid, but you have to ignore all that stuff and be true to what it is you want to do. Cause I believe we all have desires and dreams in us. For a reason and that's to guide us to the life We're supposed to be living and you have to stay in touch with that even in the times when you're afraid You have to keep pushing forward I have a pastor that I like he says your future is on the other side of fear And if you're afraid of something that's more the reason to go towards it because there's something there on the other side That is just amazing and that's exactly what you want to do So that's what I've been doing. That's,

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
20:04

Phenomenal. Deep, phenomenal and bravo and kudos to you to go and seeing someone, a psychiatrist because it all that stemmed around is your mental health. I talk about, obviously I talk about wealth a lot, right? I talk about money. But I don't say wealth equals money. Wealth equals happiness. Yeah. Happiness is that Is our money ultimately as humans and what you alluded to, there was your body telling you, I want to be happy and I want to be a business owner. I want to go do this and your brain society, every makeup that you've ever been driven on outside influences. All we're saying no, stay. It's safer. It's easier. It's safer. And follow your body. What he tells you really seriously, your body is there to, you. Do what it's best for itself and don't let outside influences dictate that. So kudos and Bravo to you for getting through that. By last though, is the fear gone? Is it easy to be a business

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
21:05

owner? It's it, you have to make that choice every single day because as you get bigger as a company, you're going to have more problems and it just, it never ends, you have to really want to be a business owner and entrepreneur to go through this. And it's hard, like I tell people, I'm like I've been a police officer where I chased bad guys in dark alleys. I've been, to Afghanistan. I've been on multiple deployments. I've been in the military. Starting my own business and running it, this is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. And, but the thing is, I wouldn't do anything else right now. This is what I want to do. I've got no plan B. This is me. But it's a daily decision of like, be faithful. Like I got a problem here, crap, what am I going to do? The easiest thing is like, okay, I'm going to go on LinkedIn and look for a job, but now this problem, as much as I don't want to deal with it, it's going to make me better if I deal with it head on, so it's a daily decision,

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
21:58

right? To steal some verbiage from, I got a buddy who's a seal, embrace the suck, right? Ultimately, exactly. Embrace the suck. And kind of what you had said is I don't have a plan B. Now, obviously, you have plan B's, like you could execute those, but you're not thinking about those. Those aren't on your spreadsheet of things to do. Because if they are, then you're half assing it, right? You're not all in. If you're over here saying, I got my plan B if this thing fails, no you're right until you die. If it fails, probably won't. If it did… You'd land on your feet, you'd figure it out. Oh yeah, of course. And that's what people need to realize is you'll figure it out. But if you don't go full force into this, Yeah. You're not giving it a shot. You're not really doing what you need to be doing. And then if it fails, now you're going to have that icky feeling in your stomach where you're going did it fail because it was a bad idea or did it fail because… Yeah, I have fast.

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
22:50

Yeah. Did you give up on it? So the thing is like for me, it's constantly watching what's in my mind because I've got another pastor He says your life moves in the direction of your strongest thought and if I'm constantly thinking about oh I heard so and so's hiring. Oh, you know Whatever like you hold on to those thoughts and you're just thinking about it while you're like doing your job or your business your, that thought is going to distract you and it's going to move you in a different direction and then it's going to keep you from actually pushing forward. So it's a constant, like every morning watching my mind, like, okay, what am I thinking about today? Is this going to help me produce and be productive with my company? And if not, I got to reset

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
23:34

and do you have any tools or tips? I know this is kind of a little off script of things, but do you have any tips that you use that maybe others could, kind of steal from you?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
23:42

What I do is I've got a vision board that's hanging out over there and there's two things that really stick to my mind. The top thing I say at first, it says, I'm going to change the world. And then the next thing is I'm going to build a 10 million business. And there's a picture of me next to like this book that says how I built the 10 million business. Like it's the future where I'm telling people, Hey, this is how I did it. And so I look at that and there's times I'll look at it and I just, I get chills because I'm like, yeah, this is what I'm going to do. Things like that I do read every single morning. I read about 25 to 30 books a year and I make sure I read books that are in line with how I want to think. And so those are big thing. I listen to a lot of podcasts that are like self help. Positive type stuff at my let I listen to him quite often. Trevor mock with the carrot cast a lot of things like that, where it's like, Hey, watch your mind. And if you are fearful, if you've got these negative thoughts, it's normal, but this is how you deal with it. So feeding my mind with. All those things really helps me out

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
24:42

And I'm a test and throw some more on. There is your health and fitness ultimately. Yeah,

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
24:47

absolutely. Yeah. And I work out every single morning. I get a gym in my garage and I, in my gym, my home gym, I've got Jocko, right? The discipline equals freedom. I got that flag hanging up and then I got another flag that says average is the enemy. So I'm surrounded by those things where I'm like, okay, I can like skip this set, but then I see, oh, average is the enemy, discipline equals freedom, right? I'm not skipping it. I'm going forward with it. So I surround myself with a lot of things like that, just as reminders of who I want to be.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
25:18

And by a great book, by the way Jocko, which I've alluded to his podcast a lot in his books. I have all of them, even the ones for the children. You guys might want to go check out discipline equals freedom. That, that is a, that is fantastic. As well. What are things do you want to say to everyone else that are out there, whether it's your business, obviously we're going to tag your business and push as many people to you as possible. I've got some buddies down in Houston as well. So I make sure to align you as well. But awesome. What are some things you want to lead everyone with?

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
25:48

The biggest thing that I'm working with right now, the thing that's on top of my mind is protecting the consumer. And what really bothers me and my wife's a real estate agent. So she just made this video with her brokerage on why she got in to becoming a real estate agent. And it's because we got screwed over by an agent, back in 2003, I wasn't to that. No, it was 2008. It got us into a bad mortgage. It was adjustable rate. We had no idea. I like, we were just like trusting this guy and we ended up getting into a short sale and really screwed us over for a couple of years. My wife's like, you know what? That pissed me off. I said what are you going to do about it? She says, I'm going to get, I'm going to become an agent. So this doesn't happen to anybody that she deals with. And so, I take that same mentality into what I do. Like, there's a lot of great contractors out there, but there's a lot of guys out there that just don't do a very good job. And I want to protect, and what I've been pushing out a message at my B and I groups and on social media is like, Hey, when you start interviewing these contractors, these are the things you want to look for. What do you want to ask them? Like, do they have insurance? What does that look like? Can you get a certificate of insurance? Are they bonded? Depending what state you're in. Are they licensed? Depending what state you're in. References. Are they, do they have a website with examples of their work on it? Things like that. Exchanging money. I've got someone in my neighborhood who paid a hundred percent of the job up front and the contractor took off. Like, and I don't blame that guy. The guy was just trusting this contractor because I'm sure he sold it really well. But you know, I want to get the message out of like, Hey, this is how it works. You get an estimate. Make sure it's a line item. It's not like this long paragraph, like, Oh, I'm going to fix your kitchen. And then there's a total price. There's no transparency there, right? Line items. Get that in there. Make sure it looks professional. Before you exchange money, make sure there's a contract, make sure you know what your payment schedule is on that, like progress payments. What does that look like? And ask them about change orders. How do you handle change orders? Like, there's a. I've had subcontractors. Oh, hey, I forgot to charge you for the paint. I'm like you just learned a lesson, man. Cause you signed a contract saying this is how much it's going to cost. So you're paying for the paint this time, right? Things like that. I've been really pushing that out. A lot of stuff on our social media. If people want to follow me, just educating people on how to look for a really good contractor. Now, if you find a really good contractor, they're not going to be the cheapest. They're going to be, you may not want to go the high end, but you know, in the middle realm there, the cheapest guy typically is the guy who's like, Oh, I'm going to say Oh, I'll charge you 10, 000 and then change order after change order. And the total scope of work isn't complete. And they're like we're not on the same page. And it's just. It's a heartache. So anyway, as you can see, I'm a little bit, a little passion there, a little passion that kind of pisses me off a bit, with my former law enforcement, I just, I like to protect the people.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
28:34

And that's phenomenal. To hear there's a lot of great business owners out there that want to do that. A lot of them say it out there, but transparency is key to anything that we do. Our industry, your industry name, the industry transparency and communication. So with that, make sure to follow them, hit them up, ask questions, be involved. If you can't find them, which is not that hard to do, hit me up. I'll connect you. We just want to make sure that you are being educated in the best way possible. If you're a business owner or want to become one, just take that leap, right? Right. Face your fears. Walk through it, grind through it and get through that chaos. And as well as if you're in the Houston, Dallas area, I guess what's your. Overall,

Chris Tighe, Founder of Elevation Construction:
29:16

more Houston right now. We'll expand up into Dallas, but we're focused as Houston right now.

Stoy Hall, CFP®:
29:19

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